Influenzinum: Original vs. Current Year?

I am interested in keeping Influenzinum on-hand for treatment of flu but not in taking it prophylactically.

I am given to understand that there is the original Influenzinum, and then there are versions of Influenzinum that are made each year.

My questions are as follows:

What is the original one made using?

Are the yearly ones made using the vaccine or the same strains of viruses as the vaccine? [I have read different versions, and that is a significant difference!]

Which one do you use / recommend and why?

If you use a yearly one, which manufacturer do you use?

Thank you kindly!

Pamela

Tags: flu, influenza, influenzinum

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Permalink Reply by Debby Bruck on October 28, 2012 at 11:27pm

Hello Pamela - I hope someone will chime in with some answers. If not, join us on the Health Inn Show in November when Kate Birch, expert in homeoprophylaxis may be able to provide answers. Personally, I only take Oscillo or Influenzinum if an epidemic has started in my region.

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Permalink Reply by Pamela Lialias on October 29, 2012 at 1:38am

Thank you.

So, do you take Influenzinum [original] or the one for the current year?

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Permalink Reply by Viktor Kalocsai on November 13, 2012 at 1:49am

if you have older ones, keep use them instead of the newly made. there are homeopathic remedies manufacturers whose products i don't use anymore. the reason is connected to your question.

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Permalink Reply by Hans Weitbrecht on November 14, 2012 at 2:46pm

Neither underwent a reliable proving. So we don't know the true effects and we don't know what kind of reaction we will get.

Giving any remedy on the basis of a diesease name is not homeopathy anyway, -- so why do you want these remedies then?

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Permalink Reply by Pamela Lialias on March 9, 2013 at 10:59pm

I'm updating with what I've discovered:

Helios' Influenzinum is made from the original Spanish Flu.

Boiron and Washington Homeopathics make their Influenzinum according to HPUS, which requires that they update it every year. They use the annual vaccine itself to make the remedy anew each [most] year[s].

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Permalink Reply by David Kempson on March 11, 2013 at 1:29am

The vaccines are full of a lot of other things than the virus. A remedy made from them could not be reliably equated to whatever information we have about the original remedy.

I assume those pharmacies are advertising the remedy for prophylaxis if they are being forced to use the current vaccine as the base substance.That is huge concession towards allopathy and I can only guess it is a financial decision on their part to provide such a product. I get very concerned about such products being called 'homoeopathic'.

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Permalink Reply by Pamela Lialias on March 11, 2013 at 6:57pm

My understanding is that it is used mostly as a nosode, to counter the negative effects of the vaccine for those who are required to take the vaccine [or do take it and then experience difficulties with their health], and some people use it like they would oscillo.

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Permalink Reply by David Kempson on March 11, 2013 at 9:35pm

The nosode should be made from disease matter, and it should be made from the same substance each time. Otherwise how can we ever know that its symptoms will be the same?

Influenzinum is made from the smear of nasal discharge of a patient with signs of influenza, and most likely has more in there than just that single virus (assuming the presence of that virus was tested for, if such was even possible when it was first prepared). I have no idea why it was not proven, because I believe it would have an interesting picture. However, clinical use can establish some signs for its use, but nontheless you would want to be using a medicine made from the same kind of source.

Oscilloccinum is made from the liver and heart of a duck.

These sources are nothing like the mix of chemicals in a vaccine. There is no logic in assuming they are similar. Pharmacies should rename the remedy under such circumstances, and if they do practitioners should not be replacing these two remedies with one made from the vaccine.

Using the vaccine-remedy as a isopathic treatment for vaccine damage is a different matter though.